Posts by Pearl Dockseye

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Does anyone have a copy of the BOE letter regarding the KH money grab?

by ToesUp in

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if anyone has a copy of the letter regarding the kingdom hall money grab (including the 2 pages the congregation did not see) can you please post a copy or copy and paste it.. thanks!.

Pearl Dockseye

I'm an old timer, so I remember when a talk from a GB member said, "The day we have to ask for donations, is the day we know we're finished." Well, I don't think he meant it the way that we take it today.

Anyone else remember how proud the org. was, when they touted that they were not like Christendom, in that they never asked for donations, never would, and would never have to, due to their confidence in God's support?

I sure hope others my age (still inside the belly of the Beast) haven't forgotten these things.

Anything to wake them up from their drunken stupor!

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

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stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Pearl Dockseye

As I have said Cofty...You do not have my experiences, and this limits your perspective.

Do you know what the mathematical improbability is, that each and every life-form on earth, "evolved"?

Do you know the mathematical improbability, that the energy it required to create the total mass of the universe from the state of physical non-existence, to the expanse we are aware of today, came about naturally?

I do not point to "profound personal experience" as my total evidence for what I believe, as if it all occurred independently within my own mental processes. You don't know the totality of that experience, nor of it's objectivity. To assume you do, and to assume what that total experience consists of, is vain error.

Just because your limited personal experience and exploration did not cause you to arrive at the same conclusion as I, does not mean that you now know everything. I would like to hear of your "insurmountable arguments" which prove that God does not exist. I am as confident as you, that I have explored them as well, and beyond. It is up to you whether you have the courage to go beyond your own familiar borders of thought.

Why would I turn to the "experience and knowledge" of others, to help me "explore my beliefs", when I have already experienced a knowledge beyond human thinking?

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

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friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Pearl Dockseye

So you are saying that there is a Truth? A reality?

But our personal perceptions of what reality and truth are, can only be limited by what we have experienced.

The difference between my concept of reality and truth, and yours, demonstrates this.

Your reality seems to be that there is no God. My reality is that God exists. What proves what reality is? We each choose what satisfies our own sense of reality. We can stop there, or we can explore further. Christ invites those who do not have faith in God, to explore further. Perhaps if I ask you, what has proven to you that there is no God? Perhaps if you had experienced that which convinces me of my own perception of reality... You too would realize that your past assumption of reality, was subjectively based upon a limited view of reality, and ironically, a delusion.

There is one truth, one reality. Who can draw near enough to it, so that it is embraced, while preconceived notions are shed? Only to those who "keep on knocking", that the door of objectivity is opened. The scriptures describe this abandoning of past mental constraints as gaining "wings of eagles". When you gain such oversight, subjectivity fades, the overall picture of reality and truth is seen, and all it's elements fit together, and relate to one another, cohesively. Saul, who became the apostle Paul, was confident of his perception of reality and truth. It was not until Christ opened his mind beyond Paul's past perceptions, that Paul understood what existed beyond his own limited perception. His understanding of reality, changed.

To Paul, Theism was reality. Some are graced with proof of that reality. Those that are not, usually possess the common delusion that nothing exists beyond what they cannot personally perceive.

Since you feel that the significance of your life is relevant, despite a transient existence, and despite the billions who have come before us and have, like an evaporating mist, suffered, and then have been forgotten; I will leave you with your comfort blanket. I am not deluded into bombastically thinking that, should someone hasten the inevitable by suicide, that this would somehow make a difference to the cosmos. Now there's a perception of reality I see no proof of.

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

jw
friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Pearl Dockseye

Reality and Truth are subjective experiences. I feel that Christ came to offer a wider perspective to the receptive.

"The reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me." (John18:37) "As long as I am in the world, I am the world's light. While you have the Light, believe in the Light, so that you may become sons of Light." (John9:5; 12:36)

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

jw
friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Pearl Dockseye

"The awesome wonders of reality" differ between individuals, as does how each defines "delusion". Both are based upon an individual's experience. I do not claim that your life is without meaning and purpose, even if transient. I claim that my experience has liberated me from the limitations of this moment of consciousness.

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

jw
friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Pearl Dockseye

I personally don't know of any people who are free of the common human experience, which includes failed relationships, busting your butt for every fleeting dollar you touch, constant anxiety over the financial demands of existence, aches and pains that come with a steady (or sudden) decline of health, and after the eventual (or sudden) loss of all facilities and pleasures of life, pass into eternal non-existence.

It is almost impossible for me to grasp how that is preferable to the promise recorded at 1Cor.2:9,10...

"But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him” (1Cor.2:9)

Such a preference for human commonality is even more confounding, for those who experience the reality of the next verse (1Cor.2:10)...

"For to us God has revealed those promises through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the mysteries of God."

The brilliant promises of God (assured to some, by revelation of His spirit's testimony) seems infinitely preferable than living without such hope. I can't even imagine such a cage. Without that evidence and hope, I would rather die now and get the misery over with. Just sayin.

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

jw
friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Pearl Dockseye

"But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John4:23,24)

"I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because no lie comes from the truth." (1John2:21)

"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (John8:12)

"The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it." (John1:9,4,5)

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John14:6)

"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free." (Luke4:18)

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." (John8:32)

"This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God." (John3:19-21)

"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (1Pet.2:9)

“For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, because he is the messenger of the Lord Almighty and people seek instruction from his mouth." (Mal.2:7)

"You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” (Rev.5:10)

"This, then, is how you ought to regard us: as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the mysteries God has revealed. Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful. I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God." (1Cor.4:1-5)

“You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven." (Matt.5:14-16)